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2007 Round 14 Post-game Articles - Collingwood versus St Kilda
. . . Twenty-one points down 33 seconds into the last term, when St Kilda's Fraser Gehrig spoiled, crumbed and ran into goal, the sense that they were going to be drowned in the rain that had soaked the MCG all afternoon was as real as the weather was cold and miserable. Collingwood had worked hard enough to give the impression it had dominated the first quarter and a half. When Josh Fraser goaled to put the team 15 points ahead 15 minutes into the second term, the Pies appeared to be the side most likely. But in between then and Gehrig's goal, 45 minutes of football had passed without a Magpie major, while the Saints had picked themselves up and smashed Collingwood all over the park. Such was the Saints' dominance that in the third term the hardball-get count was 14-5 in their favour, inside 50s 17-5 and the result on the scoreboard five goals to zip. Yet the Pies left the ground nine-point winners. As if a fire had been lit under them, after Gehrig's goal they kicked the only four further goals of the game. The Article Lyall Johnson/RealFooty/08Jul07 Justin Koschitzke incident unreportable . . . The match review panel also looked at the following incident, but deemed (it) unreportable: . . . Contact between St Kilda's Justin Koschitzke and Collingwood's Josh Fraser from the third quarter of Saturday's match was reviewed, but the panel said that the players were contesting a loose ball in the centre square and Fraser reached in for the ball. Koschitzke followed the original line of the ball and hit Fraser. It was deemed that Koschitzke had no alternative way to contest the ball. The Article saints.com.au/09Jul07 Justin Koschitzke All Clear Jordan Chong/Sportal/09Jul07 Michael Doughty incident to be reviewed by tribunal . . . (Adelaide will meet) St Kilda at Telstra Dome on Friday night when the Crows will be without forward Jason Porplyzia (hamstring) and perhaps without midfielder Michael Doughty. The AFL match review today will study video of Doughty's strike of former Hawthorn captain Shane Crawford in the 27th minute of the first term . . . Adelaide may have forward Ian Perrie (hamstring) to consider at selection this week. The Article Michelangelo Rucci/Adelaide Advertiser/09Jul07
. . . AFL football operations manager Adrian Anderson said yesterday's lengthy review of the weekend's umpiring had concluded several errors were made during the third quarter . . . "There's no doubt there were some mistakes made," Anderson said. "There was a 15-minute patch in the third quarter where there were three errors in relation to marking contests." Anderson said the review decided a shove by Fraser Gehrig on opponent Shane Wakelin, which allowed Gehrig to kick a crucial goal, should have been penalised. He said a marking contest between Magpie Tyson Goldsack and St Kilda's Jason Blake, in which the pair approached the ball from opposite sides and a free kick was paid against Goldsack, should have been allowed. "Both players had their eyes on the ball and it was perfectly legal," Anderson said. A mark taken by Nick Maxwell, which instead was paid as a free kick to St Kilda's Sam Gilbert, also should have been allowed. "As always in just about every game, they make some mistakes, and in that game they certainly made some errors," Anderson said. The Article Rohan Connolly/RealFooty/10Jul07 Late shots at goal cost Pies, Roos Daryl Timms/HeraldSun/10Jul07 Saints should mirror Collingwood's work ethic: Ross Lyon . . . Saints coach Ross Lyon said his team needed to mirror Collingwood's work ethic. "Mick Malthouse's teams stand for teamsmanship and hard work and we knew they'd come," Lyon said. "My view is I thought they outworked us and continued to run in the last quarter . . . they smacked us with ground balls, smashed us with inside 50s." The Saints fell to a 6-8 record, their finals chances now extremely slim. One positive was Maguire's solid return, after not having played since round one with a foot injury. But Aaron Hamill, yet to play this season with a knee injury, has had another setback, rested this weekend after his comeback through the VFL last round caused swelling in the knee. Don't penalise bravery, says Malthouse AAP/RealFooty/07Jul07 Malthouse lauds team effort Angus Morgan/Sportal/07Jul07 Saints should mirror Collingwood's work ethic: Ross Lyon . . . Saints coach Ross Lyon said his team needed to mirror Collingwood's work ethic. "Mick Malthouse's teams stand for teamsmanship and hard work and we knew they'd come," Lyon said. "My view is I thought they outworked us and continued to run in the last quarter . . . they smacked us with ground balls, smashed us with inside 50s." The Saints fell to a 6-8 record, their finals chances now extremely slim. One positive was Maguire's solid return, after not having played since round one with a foot injury. But Aaron Hamill, yet to play this season with a knee injury, has had another setback, rested this weekend after his comeback through the VFL last round caused swelling in the knee. Don't penalise bravery, says Malthouse AAP/RealFooty/07Jul07 Malthouse lauds team effort Angus Morgan/Sportal/07Jul07 Saints face Crows - Pies face Cats . . . Next week, conditions won't be a problem for St Kilda as they take on Adelaide at Telstra Dome on Friday night, while the victors have red-hot Geelong at the MCG the next day in what looms as one of the matches of the season. Pies topple Saints Nick Mockford/SportsAustralia/07Jul07
St Kilda coach Ross Lyon believes his Saints were simply out-worked by a more committed Collingwood unit in Saturday's match at the MCG played in drenching rain. When full-forward Fraser Gehrig kicked his fourth goal with 30 seconds on the clock in the final term, the Saints led by 21 points - the biggest lead of the match by either team. In the conditions, it was close to a match-winning lead, but Collingwood rallied with the last four goals of the match including two to Dale Thomas to get up by nine points. "We knew they would come, but my view is I thought they out-worked us and continued to run in the last quarter," a sombre Lyon told his post-match media conference. "We invited them in a little bit with some really sloppy ball use and then they really got going and out-worked us - smashed us at ground ball, smashed us at inside 50s. I thought our kick-ins under pressure really fell away." Lyon said he would be disappointed if his players felt that they had the game in the bag early in the final term. "You're never safe in league footy and that's been proven again today. I mean, 21 points is a snack in the modern game and I just thought their work-rate was enormous and something they deserve credit for and something we need to aim to match in our next game," he said. "Any loss is a bad loss, especially when you're 21 points up in the wet - it was a bad loss." The Article Angus Morgan/Sportal/07Jul07 Magpies v Saints, snippets . . . Absolute Shocker: In a match that lent itself to blunders due to the cold, wet conditions, there were plenty of skill errors, fumbles and even some highly-debatable umpiring decisions. However, no mistake was worse than Leigh Montagna's. Fifteen minutes into the final term and with scores level, the Saint attempted to kick the ball to himself at the kick-in but lost control of it, instead having to rush it through for a behind. It gave Collingwood the lead and the scent of victory, and saw them record a come-from behind win. The Article Matthew Trolloppe/Sportal/07Jul07 Saints edged by Magpies After trailing for much of the first half, the Saints snatched the lead with a stirring five-goals-to-none third quarter and led by 21 points early in the last term, but couldn't hold off the fast-finishing Magpies. Fraser Gehrig's four goals were pivotal as the Saints surged to what looked like a match-winning lead, while Nick Dal Santo (28 touches) and Robert Harvey (22 disposals) were prominent in the engine room all day. Sam Fisher was the leading possession winner on the ground with 30 touches in defence where Matt Maguire also played out his first game back from a long injury absence without incident. Dane Swan led Collingwood with 29 disposals, while Travis Cloke, Dale Thomas and Josh Fraser all had two goals each, with Thomas' second four minutes from time sealing the result. Stephen Milne snapped the first goal of the match after the Pies had missed a couple of opportunities at the other end and Justin Koschitzke gave his side an 11-point break when he converted from 50m soon after. The Saints weren't without their injury concerns early as Luke Ball went off to receive treatment on a groin and Steven Baker was left seeing stars after a friendly-fire incident with Lenny Hayes. The Article AFL/saints.com.au/07Jul07 Malthouse calls for rules review Collingwood coach Mick Malthouse believes the AFL needs to urgently review its rules, in particular the controversial hands-in-the-back interpretation, after another match marred by contentious umpiring decisions. The Magpies' thrilling nine-point win over St Kilda, on a day when persistent rain created an old-fashioned physical contest, was overshadowed by some highly technical and inflexible officiating. These included a dubious, and soft, free kick for hands in the back to Dale Thomas that enabled the Magpies to seal the win. Thomas himself had only just been denied what was potentially the goal of the year after another contentious call. The Article Rohan Connolly/RealFooty/08Jul07 Choco concerned by free-kick count Brandon Cohen/Sportal/07Jul07 Umpires steal show with inept handling Collingwood president Eddie McGuire was clearly ropeable, but not about to let loose on the record. Magpie coach Mick Malthouse was just as miffed, but saw little value in lashing out and incurring the inevitable fine. There's not much to be gained these days from clubs bagging the umpires. But after an effort from the three umpires in charge at the MCG yesterday that went pretty close to ruining what - in the miserable conditions - had been a classic contest, something had to be said. So let's give it a crack. Yes, umpiring is a thankless task. No, nobody wants to see potential umpires scared off by a tidal wave of abuse and criticism. But neither do we want to see a great game still involving plenty of physical contact and, once upon a time, one which at least allowed a little room for manoeuvre depending upon the circumstances, reduced to farce. Which happened far too often yesterday. The Article Rohan Connolly/RealFooty/08Jul07 Umpire denies 'Pie goal of year . . . Thomas kicked the sealer almost 25 minutes into the final term, with the kick fittingly coming from a soft free kick against St Kilda's Matt Maguire about 35-metres out. Minutes earlier, Thomas had baulked around two Saints defenders and slotted through an incredible kick from the boundary line, before players realised the boundary umpire had called the ball out of bounds. Even on television replays, it was difficult to determine whether it was the correct decision. The Article AAP/FoxFooty/08Jul07
Collingwood shrugged off a third-quarter surge from St Kilda to record an outstanding come-from-behind victory in trying conditions at the MCG on Saturday. Ignited by a scintillating performance from Dale Thomas, the Pies ran over the top of the Saints in the closing stages of the match played in driving rain to get up by eight points - 12.17 (89) to 12.8 (80). Thomas was the Magpies' barometer on the day, influential early when Collingwood held sway and outstanding in a tight finish with two final-term goals including the sealer. No less important for the Pies was Josh Fraser who picked up 20 possessions and 21 hitouts playing one-out in the ruck all afternoon. For the Saints, Fraser Gehrig was the most effective key forward on the ground with four goals while Nick dal Santo maintained his excellent recent form with 28 disposals. Collingwood was the better side in the first-half with Thomas, elusive and strong overhead, the catalyst up forward and Tarkyn Lockyer outstanding in a tagging role on Leigh Montagna. Lockyer sacrificed his own ball-winning game to hold Montagna, coming off a career-high 35 disposals against Richmond last week, to just five touches in the first half. And so effective was Harry O'Brien at half-back on Nick Riewoldt that Ross Lyon was forced to release his co-captain onto the ball in a bid to get him into the game. The Article Angus Morgan/Sportal/07Jul07 Thomas denied potential goal of the year . . . The Magpies looked in control at halftime when they led by 14 points, after kicking three of the last four goals of the first half, two of them from free kicks and one from a Saints' error in defence. But St Kilda outscored them 5.1 to 0.2 in the third term, powered by a ferocious attack on the ball, but also helped by several fortunate umpiring decisions in their favour. When Saints' spearhead Fraser Gehrig scored his fourth goal of the match in the opening minute of the final term to open up a 21-point lead, his team looked home. But St Kilda did not score again for the match, as Collingwood continually pushed into attack, scoring 4.6 to edge their way into the lead. After a Dane Swan goal from a free kick pushed them to within a point midway through the term, they scored four consecutive behinds, three of them rushed, to move three points ahead, before Thomas eventually sealed the game. The Article AAP/RealFooty/07Jul07 Thomas reflects on the one that got away Angus Morgan/Sportal/07Jul07
With constant rain falling throughout, making attractive football difficult, goals came from opposition errors or from debatable umpiring decisions as often as they came from skill by the attacking team. The Magpies looked in control at halftime when they led by 14 points, after kicking three of the last four goals of the first half, two of them from free kicks and one from a Saints' error in defence. But St Kilda outscored them 5.1 to 0.2 in the third term, powered by a ferocious attack on the ball, but also helped by several fortunate umpiring decisions in their favour. When Saints spearhead Fraser Gehrig scored his fourth goal of the match in the opening minute of the final term to open up a 21-point lead, his team looked home. But St Kilda did not score again for the match, as Collingwood continually pushed into attack, scoring 4.6 to edge its way into the lead. The Article AAP/HeraldSun/07Jul07 Resurgent Magpies snatch victory from Saints An elated Mick Malthouse watched from stands as his side dusted off Fraser Gehrig's final-term opener to storm home, the fourth-placed Magpies dominating the closing exchanges with an unanswered 4.6 to close out the Saints. The Saints did not go down without a fight, dominating the third quarter with four majors to Gehrig forcing the Magpies to work hard heading into the final change. The Article ABCNews07Jul07 Didak was to be ditched Collingwood president Eddie McGuire revealed yesterday that the club had been close to dumping Alan Didak after his episode with alleged city gunman Christopher Hudson and that it was Didak himself who instigated the strict sanctions of his contract. McGuire said the media's handling of the affair was "hysteria of the highest order," but agreed with criticism of the most recent Didak press conference, saying CEO Gary Pert had interrupted too often and not allowed the player to explain himself. The Article Carley Jellett/RealFooty/08Jul07 Malthouse supports Didak sanctions Gareth Trickey/HeraldSun/07Jul07 Pies was close to trading Didak AAP/FoxSports/07Jul07 Forget the sentiment - time to move on . . . It is time to test those on our list who may be part of our future. We lost to the Pies today, a team that will finish in the eight, but not in the top few, and we were found wanting. There is little point scraping into the eight only to be tipped out easily such as we were last year. We currently have too many flawed players in our seniors - players that may try hard but who restrict how good the team can be. A truism is that it is your bottom six that help you win games, and at present our bottom six is pretty poor. So lets turn over some players, at worst we will test them out and be in a postion to make informed decisions come draft time - at best things may click and we may enter the finals with a bang. There is little point staying in limbo like we currently are though. And forget all this sentimental nonsense about players trying hard, being a good clubmen etc etc; for they don't hand out flags to teams for being "nice". All that matters is whethera player is good enough to be a genuine first 22 player in an elite team. Blake is too error prone and often even under no pressure cannot kick to a team-mate in space - is never going to make it. We are just treading water playing him. Voss has lost it. Rix yep, tries hard and we have little else. But play Blake in the ruck and see what he can do. If Blake cannot do enough then delist him, and keep Rix as a back up for 2007. Ferg has been on list for ages, he is fit now, play him in place of Raph who has no awareness of where opposition players are. Sweeney has been too raw to play earlier but it is now time to test him in the seniors in place of Raph or Voss. Thommo has been a loyal servant and a good player but lets get some games into Armo. Hamill - play him with 2008 in mind and not this year, so just nurse him along with next year in mind. If he is ok then play him in the seniors by all means, but 2008 should be the priority. Gardi lets hope his foot operation has gone well for we sorely need him. Rix has a big heart but a class ruckmen he is not and will never be. Allan is onlya kid, but think about giving him a game or two late in the year if our season stays pear shaped. Howard still looks too raw Big Ferg where does he play with Kosi, G-Train and Roo in front of him? Raymond? seems to have done little and was not called on even when we virtually had no one else to play. The Post 'saintsRrising' saintsational.com St Kilda: A fork in the road . . . the list we have at present is flawed and wont take us to where we want it to until it has been tweaked in all the right areas. Which means the wait gets longer. The Post 'Jon Judson' saintsheaven.net Official enquiry into the umpiring 'brown-coat' saintsational.com Are we gone yet? NO! We still have 8 games to go and i think we can win 6 of them. Our list is getting closer to full strength with only a couple of players maybe to come back in. This would put us between 8th and 5tth with a much better list than the last few years providing no one else gets injured. Remember Adelaide did it from outside the top four and maybe we can. Yes we made it harder yesterday by not going on with it but thats football. Collingwood did have fresher mid fielders and that showed in the last 15 minutes. Maybe when they got to 15 points we should of flooded the defense and made it harder for them to score. The Post 'sainter58' saintsational.com Do we have any leadership? Four goals up against a club who had more quality missing than we did with 20 minutes to go and we go down in a screaming heap - lets not forget if the filth had made the most of their opportunities they would have won by 10 goals. Who's got the desire to take control out on the field? From the outside it looks as if no-one wants to take the situation head on. Luke Ball . . . to call him a GOP yesterday would be flattering. Lenny Hayes . . . the time out has dimmed his effectiveness to a degree, although he's never really been punishing. Nick Riewoldt . . . keeps working/presenting but he doesn't have the real killer instinct. Never going to hurt the opposition getting the pill 60 from home and going sideways or backwards 30-40 yards. Great key forwards hurt you where it really hurts on the scoreboard, Roo doesn't do that. Nick Dal Santo was about the only one who put his hand up in crunch time, the rest turned up their toes, it was all too hard - didn't want to know about it IMO next year - Nick Riewoldt caption, Nick Dal Santo Vice Caption However I'd lock Roo in a cage for 6 months and feed him nothing but meat and to use 'krabb's famous quote . . . poke sticks at him. . . . and to think we were fighting for a finals spot The Post 'rogerwa' saintsational.com
. . . Next week, conditions won't be a problem for St Kilda as they take on Adelaide at Telstra Dome on Friday night, while the victors have red-hot Geelong at the MCG the next day in what looms as one of the matches of the season. Pies topple Saints Nick Mockford/SportsAustralia/07Jul07 'Out-worked' equals 'Bad Loss': Lyon St Kilda coach Ross Lyon believes his Saints were simply out-worked by a more committed Collingwood unit in Saturday's match at the MCG played in drenching rain. When full-forward Fraser Gehrig kicked his fourth goal with 30 seconds on the clock in the final term, the Saints led by 21 points - the biggest lead of the match by either team. In the conditions, it was close to a match-winning lead, but Collingwood rallied with the last four goals of the match including two to Dale Thomas to get up by nine points. "We knew they would come, but my view is I thought they out-worked us and continued to run in the last quarter," a sombre Lyon told his post-match media conference. "We invited them in a little bit with some really sloppy ball use and then they really got going and out-worked us - smashed us at ground ball, smashed us at inside 50s. I thought our kick-ins under pressure really fell away." Lyon said he would be disappointed if his players felt that they had the game in the bag early in the final term. "You're never safe in league footy and that's been proven again today. I mean, 21 points is a snack in the modern game and I just thought their work-rate was enormous and something they deserve credit for and something we need to aim to match in our next game," he said. "Any loss is a bad loss, especially when you're 21 points up in the wet - it was a bad loss." The Article Angus Morgan/Sportal/07Jul07 Riewoldt's brother appointed at St Kilda St Kilda left no stone unturned in relation to the sensitive issue of total player payments before hiring Nick Riewoldt's brother, Alex, 22, who joined the Saints in recent weeks as a marketing assistant. St Kilda even ticked off his appointment with Ken Wood, the AFL's investigations manager, as a safeguard, given its negotiations to keep Nick with a lucrative new long-term contract. St Kilda chief executive Archie Fraser said Alex Riewoldt had earned the role. "Alex said, 'I don't want any favours' and he put himself through the recruitment process," Fraser told Pssst. "He has a bachelor of business from Griffith (University) in Queensland, majoring in sports marketing. He's smart and personable and was a great fit for us." As negotiations continue to sign Nick Riewoldt, the Brisbane Lions are believed to be preparing an 11th-hour, multimillion dollar bid to lure him back to Queensland. From Craig Hutchinson in The Age The Post 'Oh When the Saints' saintsational.com . . . Raph Clarke At full fitness like when he had an extended run of games in 2005 (i think) he was an extremely hard working backman, good mark, good in the air, decent at ground level, very good tackle and decent disposal. The following year he was down with a calf problem, missed the preseason and struggled to make an impact. He then injured his back in the QF vs Melb and that injury caused him to miss predominantly the 1st half of this season. A week after he started full training he came straight into the senior side and has stayed there. Raph's major weakness is that he struggles to adapt to the pace of AFL footy. The fact that he has struggled to play more than 2 games in a row for the last two seasons has not helped this. Now with no fitness base at all he's thrown into the team on a HBF to release Gram into the midfield. He cannot keep up with the opposition players. They run rings around him. And because he's playing catch up all the time he's always knackered. This has a direct link to his work rate and efficacy of disposal. Think of Milne. He used to be the most accurate set shot on our list. Then GT put him in the middle and got him to run all day . . . Milne didn't have the fitness base for it and because he was so exhausted he basically sprayed all of his set shots last year. It's no coincidence that he's improved his fitness in the preseason and that his disposal has improved markedly as well. The fact is, RL is absolutely destroying any confidence Raph Clarke has by putting him into a position where all he can do is sink. Raph really needed to work his fitness base up through the magoos and push his way into the seniors. Not play spend half a game each week on the bench playing on guys significantly stronger and fitter then him. The Post 'skeptic' saintsational.com Tank is weapon of choice in basement battle by Grant Thomas It's around this time of year that the key decision-makers within football clubs work out their strategies for the rest of the season. They have two options to consider. The attraction of each is proportionately lucrative, the rewards potentially defining. One is the quest for the AFL premiership cup and the other is the quest for the AFL draft cup. The latter has come a long way extremely quickly. It has been more traditionally referred to, in somewhat derogatory fashion, as the "wooden spoon". How times have changed. Where once teams had been highly motivated to avoid the ignominy of the wooden spoon, now we have a system that makes it a tantalising object of desire. At the start of every AFL season, all 16 clubs have high expectation of playing finals football. The previous season's cellar-dwellers make plans and adjustments that, if all goes well, will put them in the final eight. The sides that just miss out anticipate they will eke out some improvement that will allow them to take the next step. The finalists are looking to consolidate and ensure they make the necessary adjustments to take the next vital step. The premiership team is looking to put the silverware behind it and build on the intimidation factor it has earned. The Article Grant Thomas RealFooty/08Jul07 In a league of his own Reid Sexton RealFooty/08Jul07 AFL drug policy under fire The AFL is under increasing pressure from at least three clubs to toughen the controversial "three strikes" illicit drug policy. The news comes as The Sunday Age can reveal that league chief executive Andrew Demetriou wrote to the chairmen, presidents, chief executives and head coaches of all 16 clubs several weeks ago to defend the AFL policy. He argued that contrary to popular belief, the league did have a "zero tolerance" approach to illicit drugs. The travelling roadshow of AFL medical team Peter Harcourt and Harry Unglik is also set for a new assignment. The pair flew to Perth on Thursday night to evaluate former Eagles skipper Ben Cousins. In coming months they will brief the directors of all 16 clubs. The Article Dan Silkstone RealFooty/08Jul07 GO BACK TO PREVIOUS PAGE
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