2005 - Saints and Crows Qualifying and Elimination Final 2005
Pregame Articles
Qualifying Final
Adelaide vs. St Kilda
AAMI Stadium, Adelaide
Saturday 3rd September 2005, 7:00pm ACST
All Saints: a scary thought for rivals
Adelaide is favorite to beat St Kilda at AAMI Stadium tonight yet in most places the Saints are still favourites to win the flag. The explanation of this quirk might be that the Saints are just one week away from putting their best team on the field. That has been every club's worst fear all season. Mention it and sweat forms on brows. Grant Thomas has been our nomination for coach of the year for some time. He has taken his team to the top four while having to cobble together a line-up that has been regularly hit by injuries to essential players. He pipped Adelaide coach Neil Craig for the honour even though Craig has lifted the Crows from 12th spot last year to head bananas last week. Craig's winning ratio since taking over in round 14 last year is 67 per cent. That is exceptional but mostly he has all his best players available.
The Article Patrick Smith/TheAustralian/03Sept05
Maguire out, Gwilt in
St Kilda has been dealt a blow ahead of its qualifying final against minor premier Adelaide at AAMI Stadium on Saturday night, with star defender Matt Maguire withdrawing from the selected 22. Maguire's place in the team has been taken by youngster James Gwilt, who made his senior debut in the club's round 22 thrashing of the Brisbane Lions . . . When asked whether Maguire would be fit to play in the Saints' next match, Thomas quipped: "In two weeks time he should be fine."
The Article Sportal/saints.com.au/02Sept05
St Kilda defence left in tatters David Reed/WestAustralian/03Sept05
Back-line blow with Maguire out
With its defence already ravaged by injury, St Kilda was dealt another blow yesterday when key defender Matt Maguire withdrew from the side to take on Adelaide tonight . . . The Papua New Guinea-born Gwilt, who last year played for suburban club Noble Park, would be a welcome addition to the side, Thomas said. "We like to have a bit of faith in our players and we think he adds a different dimension," he said. "He'll be hard at the footy, he'll be hard at the man, that's all we want him to be. He's got a few tricks that he's going to display as well and he's a beautiful kick and it's a magnificent opportunity for him. And I just think it will also instil a bit of enthusiasm amongst the playing group as well."
The Article Lyall Johnson/TheAge/03Sept05
How Saints can stone the Crows
I aqm still confident about my early crow a few months ago that Adelaide could win the 2005 premiership, but tonight will be its greatest challenge. St Kilda has the best list in the competition, easily. The Saints enter the game as underdogs, but as a team that handled itself well in finals atmosphere at AAMI Stadium last year. Although St Kilda won't be at full strength and fitness, if coach Grant Thomas gets several key elements in his planning right it can win tonight and set up its season with a home preliminary final.
The Article Terry Wallace/HeraldSun/03Sept05
Saints reel at loss of Maguire
. . . The Saints have taken a calculated gamble, bringing teenager James Gwilt into the 22 for his second AFL match. This time last year, Gwilt was playing for suburban team Noble Park in Victoria's Eastern Football League. Gwilt made his senior debut last Saturday night against Brisbane. Coach Grant Thomas said the surprise pick in last year's national draft added a "different dimension" to his team, which will take the field without senior regulars Maguire, Max Hudghton, Justin Koschitzke, Luke Penny and Xavier Clarke. "He will be hard at the footy, he will be hard at the man, that is all we want him to be," Thomas said of Gwilt who, along with Brisbane's Mal Michael, is one of only two AFL players with Papua New Guinean heritage.
The Article Chip Le Grand and Andrew McGarry/TheAustalian/03Sept05
Saints focused despite big loss
. . . Speaking before departing for Adelaide with the players, Thomas said the decision on Maguire (hip flexor) was made at training yesterday, largely by Maguire himself. He has been replaced by Jason Gwilt, the lad with the Papua New Guinean background who will play just his second game of AFL. Full-forward Fraser Gehrig (groin) and Sam Fisher (foot) will also definitely play. "Maguire hasn't come up," Thomas said. "He was very close, but we need to make sure that everyone who plays is 100 per cent and he was a touch off that. And the way he plays probably would not have helped him a hell of a lot, so we've got to make sure he is ready to (for the next game). And full credit to Goosey, he was extremely honest in his appraisal. He knows what we need to do and I've got no doubt he would've got through."
The Article Mark Robinson/HeraldSun/03Sept05
The final verdict - Adelaide v St Kilda
Can St Kilda find a way through Adelaide's defence?
Peter Schwab: You can't take injured players into finals and expect to win, but you also can't wait until every player is 100 per cent, because at this time of year most players carry aches and pains. Only St Kilda and the players returning from injury know the risks involved. Of those set to return I would expect Gehrig to be fine. St Kilda has made the right decision and not risked Max Hudghton.
The Article Robert Walls and Peter Schwab/TheAge/03Sept05
It all ads up for Crows Michelangelo Rucci/The(Adelaide)Advertiser/03Sept05
Graham Cornes: 'Surprisingly, Adelaide is continuously underestimated' The(Adelaide)Advertiser/03Sept05
Crows can cope with ram-raids Richard Earle/The(Adelaide)Advertiser/03Sept05
Finals puzzle
. . . As for the Crows, they meet St Kilda. I did not see the Saints' demolition of the Lions, but to me they are the great unknown in the finals equation. You can put up serious doubts about them - about Nick Riewoldt having been cajoled into the captaincy too early, about the coach's tactical acumen, about their injury problems in defence. Equally, there is a history of eccentricity that you sense might be about to achieve one of its most flamboyant expressions. Remember, St Kilda is Warney's team. The Saints could do anything.
The Article Martin Flanagan/TheAge/03Sept05
Sheahan's team of the year Mike Sheahan/HeraldSun/03Sept05
Saints bolstered for Crows clash
St Kilda has made four important inclusions for Saturday night's first qualifying final against Adelaide at AAMI Stadium with Fraser Gehrig, Matt Maguire, Sam Fisher and Brent Guerra all returning to the side. Gehrig (groin) and Maguire (hip) missed St Kilda's 139-point win over the Brisbane Lions in the final home-and-away round of the season last Saturday night. The key pair were late withdrawals from the club's greatest-ever victory. Fisher (foot) has missed the past two matches while Guerra also returns after a two-match stint out of the side. The Saints have lost the versatile Brendon Goddard with a calf injury. He has played 18 matches this season. James Gwilt, who made his debut last round, has been omitted, along with Jason Gram and Aaron Fiora, but the trio remain emergencies for the Saints.
The Article saints.com.au/01Sept05
Saints call in the finals cavalry
St Kilda last night made four changes for its qualifying final against Adelaide at AAMI Stadium tomorrow night. The Saints recalled Fraser Gehrig, Matt Maguire and Sam Fisher from injury, and in a surprise, named tough interchange forward Brent Guerra for his 12th game for the season and his first since a six-possession performance in round 20. Gehrig missed last week's 139-point win over Brisbane with groin soreness, as did Maguire with a hip injury and Fisher has made a quicker-than-expected recovery from a foot stress fracture after missing two games. Out of the side go Aaron Fiora, Jason Gram, James Gwilt and Brendon Goddard, who strained his calf last weekend. Still sidelined for the Saints are Justin Koschitzke, Xavier Clarke, Max Hudghton and Luke Penny.
The Article Greg Denham/TheAustalian/02Sept05
Trio recovers just in time for Saints Len Johnson/TheAge/02Sept05
Dees wait on Neitz as Saints return Michael Stevens/HeraldSun/02Sept05
Saints coach's recipe to bring Crows to boil
St Kilda coach Grant Thomas has signalled the Saints' intent to rattle and stir minor premier Adelaide out of its trademark "patience and composure" by recalling pocket dynamite Brent Guerra for tomorrow's AFL qualifying final at AAMI Stadium. Needing to test Adelaide's readiness for finals, Thomas' choice of Guerra is inspired. He was the powderkeg Thomas used to ignite the Saints in the midfield against Geelong last year's Wizard Cup grand final. And with Adelaide missing its captain and toughest player, suspended Brownlow Medallist Mark Ricciuto, the prospect of Guerra and St Kilda key forward Aaron Hamill bringing tempers to boiling point looms large. Thomas has emphasised Adelaide will miss Ricciuto "from the trenches". "When they come out of the trenches, they look to their left for Ricciuto," says Thomas, not adding what image would emerge tomorrow night. It will the first time this season Adelaide has played without its inspirational captain.
The Article Michelangelo Rucci/The(Adelaide)Advertiser/02Sept05
Back to heartbreak high
. . . The nightmare is rekindled tomorrow night when the Saints face Adelaide in the qualifying final. "Why?" asks Thomas. "We're not playing Port Adelaide. We're playing Adelaide." If anything, Thomas adds, the events of last September and the tough road the Saints have travelled to get another finals chance makes his St Kilda side better this time. "Last year," says Thomas, "We had an opportunity and we missed that opportunity. We don't want to make the same mistake twice. We want to create our own history and let nothing get in the way of doing that. But we know we will be coming up against sides that are equally hungry."
The Article Michelangelo Rucci/The(Adelaide)Advertiser/02Sept05
Fired-up Saints out to prove critics wrong
It was a fortnight ago when a headline declared Grant Thomas wouldn't get his hands on the premiership cup. If the Saints ever needed something to stir the hornet's nest and act as a motivating factor, that was it. St Kilda veteran Andrew Thompson said last night it was one of many reports in the media in recent weeks that had pressed a button at Moorabbin. "People can have an opinion but when the players saw that we all thought, 'Let's prove the critics wrong'," Thompson said. "It's been mentioned and noted just like the rest who said we couldn't win it." Thompson said the players made a pact last week, before their clash with Brisbane, that the Lions would be the beginning of proving the doubters wrong.
The Article Mark Robinson/HeraldSun/02Sept05
Malcolm Blight speaks out
Do you have an emotional tie to St Kilda in any way?
Yeah, particularly when you see the guys that first came to the club, you know, Aaron and Fraser, Brett Voss has been terrific, Milney came to the club that year, obviously Kosi and Rooey.
Thomas has taken hits from people, media, coaches who are a bit bewildered by him. Has he surprised you?
No. I always thought Grant had a pretty good grip on footy.
Good grip on people?
Yeah. I would've thought so.
You talk to him at all?
No.
Harbour any ill feeling towards St Kilda or Thomas.
No. It's 400 years ago.
The Interview Mark Robinson/HeraldSun/02Sept05
How to win without Roo
. . . Is such a big win capable of doing more harm than good by lulling the Saints into bad habits and false thoughts on form? "Did you think that after Adelaide beat Collingwood by 110 points and then followed it up by beating the league leader West Coast last Saturday for the minor premiership?" responds Thomas. "I think winning form is good form. We took particular notice of how we finished off that game against Brisbane. In the past, when we've been in complete control of games, we've started to play forward of the footy . . . well, to be honest, we have lairised. We've not worked as hard nor for each other."
The Article Michelangelo Rucci/The(Adelaide)Advertiser/02Sept05
Crows vow to fight fire with fire
Adelaide defender Nathan Bassett says he will put his body on the line to protect his midfielders from St Kilda enforcer Aaron Hamill at AAMI Stadium on Saturday night. The All-Australian contender last night claimed he would stand between Hamill and the Crows on-ballers to stop them from being cleaned up by the tough Saint in the first qualifying final. "I will be trying to stand in front of him so he can't do it," Bassett said of the physical threat posed by the St Kilda forward. Adelaide is bracing itself for some rough-house tactics from Hamill and fellow Saints hardmen Fraser Gehrig, Matt Maguire, Steven Baker and Brett Voss as they look to take advantage of a team minus its toughest player and inspirational leader, Mark Ricciuto.
The Article Andrew Capel/The(Adelaide)Advertiser/01Sept05
Craig's theory of relativity in ultimate test Andrew Capel/The(Adelaide)Advertiser/02Sept05
Saints backed into joint favouritism for flag
St Kilda has been backed in to equal favouritism for the premiership this week with Australia's two biggest football betting agencies. Further money on the Saints in the next 48 hours will most likely install the men from Moorabbin as outright favourites ahead of long-time fancies West Coast and Adelaide, who took over that mantle after ending the Eagles' long run of home victories at Subiaco last weekend. At the end of round 22 last Sunday night, TAB Sportsbet had the Crows at $3.25 to win their third AFL premiership. The Eagles had eased to $3.65, Sydney was at $4.25 and St Kilda next at $5. Since then, however, punters have wanted to back only two teams for the flag - St Kilda and, to a lesser extent, Port Adelaide. Yesterday, Sportsbet had St Kilda and West Coast joint favourites at $3.85, with Adelaide eased out to $4 and Sydney at $4.50. At Centrebet, the top three were joint favourites at $3.80.
The Article Len Johnson/TheAge/01Sept05
Saints march with reinforcements
The dark days of St Kilda's mid-season slump seemed a world away yesterday as a string of injured key players trained strongly in the near-spring sunshine at Moorabbin, leaving coach Grant Thomas with a delicious dilemma. Just how do you change up to a quarter of your team, when only a few days earlier it thrashed last year's fading grand finalist Brisbane by a record 139 points? Despite the joy of such a stirring victory in the face of recent unwanted and self-inflicted controversy, Thomas highlighted what a serious business finals are by saying nothing. One of the most quotable coaches in the competition, who has given us the mantra of '100 per cent effort from 100 per cent of the people, 100 per cent of the time' walked off Moorabbin yesterday sullen-faced and seemingly oblivious to the outside world. The silent Saints may have cost their million-dollar sponsors the opportunity for more exposure but winners can do what they like. A grand-final victory brings with it demi-god status and more millions.
The Article Malcolm Conn/TheAustralian/01Sept05
Forwards happy to slip under the radar
Adelaide openly admits St Kilda coach Grant Thomas won't be shaking in his boots when he devises a plan to stop the Crows forwards in the first qualifying final. "I guess we're not big names," Trent Hentschel said of his forward line partnership with fellow key position types Scott Welsh, Ken McGregor and Ian Perrie. At the other end, St Kilda does have name players. Coleman Medallist Fraser Gehrig, a centurion last year, stands at full forward. He is surrounded by superstar captain Nick Riewoldt, tough-as-nails Aaron Hamill and brilliant goalsneak Stephen Milne, who kicked a career-best 11 goals against Brisbane on Saturday. They are enough to give Crows coach Neil Craig plenty of headaches, despite having the AFL's best defence to throw at them. "They have got the names but we're happy to be going under the radar," Hentschel, who kicked a career-best 5.5 against Collingwood two weeks ago, said. "We don't care what people think of us as long as we get the job done and the team wins." They have done just that this season.
The Article Andrew Capel/The(Adelaide)Advertiser/01Sept05
Saints to test injured behind closed doors
St Kilda will use a closed training session tomorrow as a final fitness test for Saturday night's qualifying final. The Saints want to double check the availability of at least three players before the flight to Adelaide tomorrow afternoon. Brendon Goddard, still troubled by calf soreness, and hamstring victims Max Hudghton and Xavier Clarke are expected to require further monitoring before facing the in-form Crows . . . No member of the coaching staff was permitted to speak before or after training, a stark contrast to the open policy of other finalists, in particular Melbourne and the Kangaroos. From over the boundary line, it appears the Saints might be able to call up consistent backman Sam Fisher in a bid to snatch a home preliminary final from Saturday's across-the-border raid.
The Article Bruce Matthews/HeraldSun/01Sept05
Saints coy on selections TheAustralian/01Sept05
Gehrig to miss All Australian?
St Kilda could have as many as five players selected in next week's AFL All-Australian team, but dual Coleman medallist Fraser Gehrig looks unlikely to be one of them. The fiery Saints spearhead, who wrapped up his second consecutive AFL goalkicking title at the weekend despite missing the final round, is understood to have missed out on a spot in the All-Australian team goal square in favour of Sydney key forward and former Saint Barry Hall. The All-Australian selection panel meets today to finalise the 2005 side, which will be announced on Monday night, and seems odds-on to rule in favour of Hall, despite Gehrig having kicked two more goals for the season in two fewer games.
The Article Rohan Connolly/TheAge/30Aug05
Saints finally fit
St Kilda is optimistic it will field a much stronger team against the Crows on Saturday night, with key players having survived training yesterday, but it will wait until tomorrow before settling on as many as five changes. St Kilda coach Grant Thomas said the players in question - Matt Maguire, Fraser Gehrig, Max Hudghton, Sam Fisher and Xavier Clarke - had come through yesterday's training session fine. Maguire, perhaps the player most critical to the team structure, received treatment for his hip during training but completed the session and is a strong chance, while Coleman medallist Gehrig, who withdrew from last weekend's game with an adductor strain, moved well and appears certain to return. But Brendon Goddard's prospects are not so positive, since he did not participate in training at all, and Thomas did not raise his name as probable inclusion.
The Article Melissa Ryan and Jake Niall/TheAge/01Sept05
Saints put through their paces
St Kilda coach Grant Thomas put his side through a light, but spirited training session on Wednesday afternoon ahead of their big clash with Adelaide on Saturday night. The one-hour hitout was attended by an eager crowd of Saints fans with most attention focused on the host of injured stars in contention for a recall. Fraser Gehrig (groin), Matt Maguire (hip), Max Hudghton (hamstring), Xavier Clarke (hamstring), Brendon Goddard (calf) and Sam Fisher (foot) were all out on the track with varying levels of participation. Goddard never took off his warm-up jacket and looks to have little chance of making the trip to Adelaide after doing little more than stroll the park and chat to teammates and assistant coaches, while Maguire was also far from convincing.
The Article Jason Phelan/Sportal/saints.com.au/31Aug05
Structure suits Bassett
Nathan Bassett plays his 150th AFL match on Saturday night, inspired by the disciplines and structures that have enabled Adelaide to have easily the tightest defence in the competition this season. As the Crows' full back for the best part of seven years, Bassett knew all about the pressures of being subjected to a steady bombardment, sometimes as a lonely figure on the last line. Now, mostly out of a back pocket, the courageous 28-year-old left-footer is much more comfortable, knowing he has ample reinforcements trying to repel opposing teams' attacks. "It's a lot easier system to play in defence now than it was before because of the structures and the support we've set up," Bassett said before training on Wednesday in preparation for the second qualifying final against St Kilda at AAMI Stadium on Saturday night."
The Article afc/saints.com.au/31Aug05
Boiling point Richard Earle/TheAdvertiser/31Aug05
Finals campaigners lead Crows 'babes'Michelangelo Rucci/TheAdvertiser/31Aug05
Akermanis: Year we had to have
. . . Of Saturday's collision with St Kilda's Hamill, which left Akermanis with a badly strained shoulder, he said: "I'm not really that pleased with the incident because it wasn't really necessary. Toughness is one thing, but when you're not really going for the ball, and you're going the man, I reckon that's pretty easy to do and when you're coming off the line and picking blokes off who aren't ready, I don't think it is overly tough. It was disappointing, the whole thing. In the end, I got a strained AC joint that is painful and will need a couple of weeks off before I get back in to the weights." Akermanis returned to play after having the shoulder treated and strapped by medicos, but was ineffectual. "I probably shouldn't have gone back on and I thought, 'Last game of year, I should go back and do something'," he said. "Aaron asked me how it was and I said it was pretty sore. He did say sorry, but obviously that doesn't help me."
The Article Damian Barrett/HeraldSun/01Sept05
Aker rips AFL over 'amazing' fixture Damian Barrett/HeraldSun/01Sept05
Qualifying Final preview: Adelaide v St Kilda
The Saints have one of the most potent forward lines in the competition, featuring Gehrig, Nick Riewoldt, Aaron Hamill and the nifty Stephen Milne, fresh from an 11-goal haul against the Brisbane Lions. Whatever score they manage to kick against the miserly Crows will be crucial to the outcome. With Ricciuto to miss for Adelaide, the Saints look likely to have the ascendancy through the midfield but they will underestimate Crows ball-winners Simon Goodwin, Tyson Edwards and Scott Thompson at their peril. The match-ups will be fascinating. The Crows may opt for negating roles against one of Luke Ball, Lenny Hayes or Nick Dal Santo, but that often frees up the likes of Robert Harvey, Stephen Powell and Andrew Thompson to have a greater impact.
The Preview Scott Spits/AFL/saints.com.au/30Aug05
Crows have system to cover loss of Ricciuto
Neil Craig has already tasted premiership success in the AFL, being a key figure behind the scenes in the Crows' triumphs of 1997 and 1998 under Malcolm Blight. And Craig has borrowed some of Blight's mantra as he steers top-of-the-table Adelaide into another finals campaign, this time as coach and with the club as premiership favourite. Craig found out on Monday night he would be without his best player and captain, Mark Ricciuto, when Adelaide confronts St Kilda at AAMI Stadium on Saturday. But under what he calls "the system", it should not affect Adelaide too dramatically.
The Article Martin Blake/TheAge/31Aug05
Saints take a parochial approach
The clash between the Crows and the Saints pits together the league's best defence in Adelaide against the league's best forward line in St Kilda and Thomas is confident his team - which kicked 28 goals last week - can handle a defence that has conceded an average of just 68 points per game this season. "They have got a very mean defence, they don't give goals up easily but we have got what I consider to be a powerful forward line that can score heavily," Thomas said. "It's going to be interesting to see how it all pans out, they have got to keep us to under 10 goals or so which hasn't happened much this year and while they have scored a bit more heavily in recent weeks I'm confident our defence can hold up against them."
The Article Paul Gough/Sportal/saints.com.au/29Aug05
Crows can cover loss of Ricciuto Michelangelo Rucci/theadvertiser/30Aug05
Adelaide back line most miserly in 25 years Ashley Porter/TheAge/30Aug05
Thomas spoilt for choices Karen Lyon/TheAge/30Aug05
Saints on the ball Robert Wall/TheAge/30Aug05
Ricciuto banned as Saints load up
On the same day Adelaide lost its inspirational skipper, St Kilda announced it had five stars raring to bounce back into action. As the Crows yesterday learnt they would be without suspended midfielder Mark Rucciuto for the first qualifying final against the Saints, all was positive at Moorabbin. Saints coach Grant Thomas forecast up to six changes and a brutal selection pow-wow ahead of Saturday night's match at AAMI Stadium.
The Article Mark Stevens/HeraldSun/30Aug05
Saints spurred by 2004 frustration
St Kilda skipper Nick Riewoldt says the Saints' players have not forgotten the pain of coming so close to a grand final berth last year as they use the frustration of 2004 as motivation to go one step further in 2005. The Saints will kick off their second successive finals campaign against Adelaide at AAMI Stadium on Saturday night in one of two qualifying finals this weekend with the winners to earn a week off and progress straight to home preliminary finals. It will be the Saints' first match in Adelaide since last year's preliminary final against Port when they lost by just six points to the eventual premiers in one of the most exciting finals of recent years.
The Article Paul Gough/Sportal/saints.com.au/29Aug05
Ricciuto offered one-game ban
. . . St Kilda coach Grant Thomas admitted on Monday the Crows would miss their inspirational skipper if he does miss Saturday night's qualifying final through suspension. "In a final you want your best players playing and he is a great captain," Thomas said of Ricciuto. However Thomas said he would not be disappointed if Ricciuto was cleared to play on Saturday night, even though his absence would definitely increase the Saints' chances of winning and progressing straight to a home preliminary final. "Personally I have great enormous respect for Mark Ricciuto, he epitomises what footy is all about because he is hard, tough and aggressive and he has been doing it for years. Ideally you would want him to play because that is what finals footy is about and we want to measure ourselves against the best."
The Article Paul Gough/Sportal/saints.com.au/29Aug05
Ricciuto got 1 week. saintsational.com
Tribunal: Crow takes one Bruce Matthews/HeraldSun/30Aug05
Clarke claims final Rising Star nomination
St Kilda's Raphael Clarke is the Round 22 - and final - nomination for the NAB AFL Rising Star Medal. The No.8 selection at the 2003 NAB AFL National Draft has been rewarded for some solid progress with the Saints this year, having followed up with one game in his debut season followed by 14 in 2005. He had 18 touches across half-back during the Saints 139-point thrashing of the Brisbane Lions on Saturday night at Telstra Dome, but he had 23 touches against Richmond in round five, 22 against Hawthorn in round 12 and 20 against Melbourne in round four.
The Article Sportal/saints.com.au/29Aug05
Raphael Clarke joins talented field AAP/HeraldSun/30Aug05
Frankie: Veteran's View
Justin Peckett is one man who knows the St Kilda Football Club inside and out. The 14-year veteran has seen it all in his time at Moorabbin, experiencing a finals campaign in his first season to seeing the club struggle and then a renaissance in the past two seasons. Peckett has never been a player who has received such fanfare as some of his teammates but the fans admire his courage, consistency and ability to overcome the odds. Peckett isn't blessed with outstanding pace but his quick thinking, sharp skills and the occasional long bomb for goal make him an invaluable asset for the Saints. It seems however the veteran's form of late is like fine wine, getting better with age.
The Article Luca Giacobello/saints.com.au/29Aug05
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